@Crazyguy
which book did Rutherford say this in?
remember when we were jws and we'd hear from the platform, in conventions and on jw broadcasting that the things jws have achieved could only be possible with the help of the holy spirit?
yeah, well, i used to believe that when i was "in".
since leaving we all know this is bs, but today a simple, non religious, conversation lead me to see how stupid their claim is.. in my attempt to meet people and make friends i joined an international meetup group online a few months ago.
@Crazyguy
which book did Rutherford say this in?
growing up as a teenager, i would occasionally get some counseling for having my hair a bit too long by a couple of elders in the congregation.
one time i cut my hair shorter than usual and one elder said i was cutting it too short!
so it made me feel like anything i did wouldn't satisfy them.
Growing up as a teenager, I would occasionally get some counseling for having my hair a bit too long by a couple of elders in the congregation. One time I cut my hair shorter than usual and one elder said I was cutting it too short! So it made me feel like anything I did wouldn't satisfy them. Something I've always wanted to do is grow my hair out and donate it to anyone who needs it, but obviously I'm unable to because of Watchtower's stance regarding hair length, even though that's something that isn't even mentioned in the Bible about how your hair should be styled and what length it should be. And it's crazy because I can imagine myself doing it, but at the same visualize people look at me like I'm crazy or avoiding me or even counseling for wanting to do something nice for people who can benefit from it. Anyone know of a male Witness that's ever done this? I'm sure if it's done, this person would probably be disqualified from going out on field service or participating. We have this one brother in my congregation who was formerly an elder and wears a goatee but he is able to go out on field service and participate during the book or watchtower study. However, ask anyone and they'll say that this "brother" is "off his rocker" which I think is pretty judgmental. The whole grooming situation I'm sure can easily make someone wake up because of how complicated it is.
~Jules
tonight i had an argument with both my parents.
my parents are aware of my feelings towards the organization, and it saddens them because i am their first born son.
they had high expectations of me, my father dreamt of him and i serving together as elders.
@LisaRose
Thank you for those words of encouragement, I envy those with accepting and understanding parents that want nothing more than their children's happiness.
tonight i had an argument with both my parents.
my parents are aware of my feelings towards the organization, and it saddens them because i am their first born son.
they had high expectations of me, my father dreamt of him and i serving together as elders.
@Muddy Waters
Thank you very much for those kind words
hi everyone.. well, i have some good news.
after having a terrible moment arguing with my mom about the 1914 teaching and all it evolves (she get really upset and i felt great regret for starting the argument) she came to me next day and started talking with a much more open mind, and she talked about a lot of concerns too.. she and my father naivily expressed the wish to write to bethel to ask about 607bc.
i told in all the possible ways it wouldn't work.
^
sounds already like a disfellowshipping offense on apostasy
tonight i had an argument with both my parents.
my parents are aware of my feelings towards the organization, and it saddens them because i am their first born son.
they had high expectations of me, my father dreamt of him and i serving together as elders.
@problemaddict 2
yeah I'll definitely refrain from using those terms
tonight i had an argument with both my parents.
my parents are aware of my feelings towards the organization, and it saddens them because i am their first born son.
they had high expectations of me, my father dreamt of him and i serving together as elders.
@deegee
thank you for that reference I'll definitely look it up
mum has a mild form of lukeimia if she took blood like normal people she could live to be 100. but no, anointed sisters dont compromise jehovah wont allow it.
so here i am moving to sydney for one month going to hospital everyday putting my life on hold to watch my mother die slowly.
watching her gasp for air, struggle to breath.
I'm very sorry about this, I wish nothing but strength to you in this time ❤️
tonight i had an argument with both my parents.
my parents are aware of my feelings towards the organization, and it saddens them because i am their first born son.
they had high expectations of me, my father dreamt of him and i serving together as elders.
@Giordano
i try not to debate with them, but our lives are all tangled to these beliefs. I just try to reason with them, you see he still sees absolutely nothing wrong with the false predictions, I'll quote Deuteronomy 18:20 and what it says about speaking in Jehovah's name and it won't really phase him, he'll just say that the Society got better and they no longer make predictions
tonight i had an argument with both my parents.
my parents are aware of my feelings towards the organization, and it saddens them because i am their first born son.
they had high expectations of me, my father dreamt of him and i serving together as elders.
I can't help but feel like my father may be aware of it being a cult? I asked him last night "If you were in a cult, how would you know?" And he tells me "But why would I look that up? How would that benefit me? It'd probably confuse me, much like it has confused you."